September 21, 2009
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Comments from around the web/Pushing and Pulling Continued
My Hospital's CEO's comments on Obesity - Plain Dealer
Smaller Carbon Footprints - from the Economist
Insider Trading in Hong Kong - From the Economist
Someone else's take on Pushing and Pulling - From myladyfoxHaving looked through some of the reactions that my post has generated regarding the natural give and take that occurs in relationships, it seems to me that I've some clarifying to do. First of all, the push and pull is really a comment on equilibria that exist in any "relationship." The above post discusses the issue from a biblical perspective about mutual servant-hood, giving and so forth... which are absolutely essential. I mean, who can argue with the concept of two individuals completely given to giving to one another? Striving to anticipate and out-serve the other?
If one could trust one's mate to always do what's in your best interest, how liberating would that be? Would you then be liberated to try to do what's in their best interest also? Hopefully... although I think that, left to our own devices, humanity is far more prone to a more self-centered response -- enjoy the benefits, and pursue more self-gratification by taking the sacrifices of one's other for granted.
I believe that with God's help, one can approach a much more self-denying sort of love, in the sense that one can put the other's needs before one's own and trust God for provenance of one's needs -- hopefully through one's partner...
The post about Equilibrium, however, is that our basic natures and impulses give us all divergent ways of approaching things. This divergence, this multiplicity of perspectives allows for a greater depth of insight into issues and scenarios -- and this diversity/plurality should allow for better decisions -- though it does not obviate matters of headship etc.
I think my hope was to spark an appreciation of differences of opinion and to remind the reader to try to regard disagreement as a tool for growth and improvement of one's life-course and way of doing things. The thermodynamics of positive and negative feedback loops are well documented -- and I think offer insight into why it's a good thing that males and females operate differently -- and on a broader scope, why operating differently is good in general.
1 Corinthians 12:12-31
12The body is a unit, though it is made up of many parts; and though all its parts are many, they form one body. So it is with Christ. 13For we were all baptized by[c] one Spirit into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.
14Now the body is not made up of one part but of many. 15If the foot should say, "Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body," it would not for that reason cease to be part of the body. 16And if the ear should say, "Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body," it would not for that reason cease to be part of the body. 17If the whole body were an eye, where would the sense of hearing be? If the whole body were an ear, where would the sense of smell be? 18But in fact God has arranged the parts in the body, every one of them, just as he wanted them to be. 19If they were all one part, where would the body be? 20As it is, there are many parts, but one body.
21The eye cannot say to the hand, "I don't need you!" And the head cannot say to the feet, "I don't need you!" 22On the contrary, those parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, 23and the parts that we think are less honorable we treat with special honor. And the parts that are unpresentable are treated with special modesty, 24while our presentable parts need no special treatment. But God has combined the members of the body and has given greater honor to the parts that lacked it, 25so that there should be no division in the body, but that its parts should have equal concern for each other. 26If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it.
27Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it. 28And in the church God has appointed first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then workers of miracles, also those having gifts of healing, those able to help others, those with gifts of administration, and those speaking in different kinds of tongues. 29Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? 30Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues[d]? Do all interpret? 31But eagerly desire[e] the greater gifts.
And now I will show you the most excellent way.
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I don't really know what myladyfox means. Is the writer saying that within a biblical marriage there will be no pushing and pulling? Maybe in eternity, but wait, in eternity there will be no marriage. In this world, we can't always let the other person do whatever they want. Marriage is a way for God to redeem us from our selfishness, and a certain amount of pushing and pulling is healthy to keep ourselves in check.
Polymath is also right that differences in personality will lead to a healthy diversity in perspective. It's just that (as I pointed out before when i hogged your comments section), this healthy diversity also leads to healthy (or unhealthy) conflict.
Yeah, I did say I was going to blog on this didn't I? Just got distracted....
I agree that difference in opinion ought to be used as a tool for growth and improvement and it can be approached from many of different aspects. However, my perspective on biblical approach is to prevent, one taking advantages of out-serving other’s and to avoid/reduce the hardship in relationship…..possible empowerment to the next level of mature relation....
If one ponder and endure the best choice/decision for other’s/relationship before one seeks for own rights/alternatives, obviously less push and pull in decision making but ideally only in tension to savour beloved one.
Different personality doesn’t necessarily mean conflict but a reason to work harder to redeem our selfishness.....and a reason for more explicit communication....Then again, every relationship is different….
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